It was 17. and they get 3rd place, muahahahhaa. wont' last long so it doesn't matter. none of the SE teams will.

yeah, some analyst wrote that buffalo needs one point and a win to make hte playoffs, wasn't sure why he said that, but makes sense considering the rags are playing the craps.

I'm gonna get back into exercising when I get back from Peru. Gives me over 3 more weeks to rest my shoulders and knees. My left knee was bothering me last ngiht when doing deadlifts.. I can pump those things out like nothin'.. 100 lbs, 20 reps is nothing.